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Engine and Gear box Mounts!
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2ldohc
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:22 pm Posts: 603 Location: Adelaide, Australia
Car(s): 1968 Isuzu Bellett Deluxe (Polynesian Blue), 1974 Datsun 240z, 1970 Datsun Fairlady SRL311, 1966 Prince Skyline
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Looks like they are readily available from the States: http://www.partstrain.com/ShopByDepartment/Engine_Mount/CHEVROLET/LUVhttp://www.familycar.com/store/?Ntt=chevrolet+luv+engine+mount&oes=trueHope that helps point you in the right direction... if those mounts are the right ones! Cheers, R.
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JT191
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:05 am Posts: 543 Location: 12,450 miles away from the Big Warehouse in Melbourne
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1968GT wrote: Anybody with ant further suggestions please,I am listening. From Brett's previous comments, it sounded like the consensus was to use the KB/LUV mounts. The pictures I posted were from a website called rockauto.com. Their website says they ship international. They show those mounts very inexpensive (for what they have in stock anyway, as soon as they run out they will probably raise the price). Look under 1974 model year, they start with the engine mounts for that year. I have no idea on the quality of these. There are aftermarket parts in the US that are better than original, and there are others that are extremely poor quality. It's a gamble, and for the price of the LUV mounts, not an expensive gamble. The stuff I build will outlive the car by decades, but the truck mounts are a fraction of what I could make them for. I'll wait until I know I need some or get farther along and need an entertaining project. I suspect suspension bushings are going to be more immediate on my list.
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1968GT
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:32 am Posts: 1266 Location: MUDGEE. NSW
Car(s): 1968 PR91 Bellett GT. 2014 ISUZU MU-X, 2016 Jayco 22' Starcraft Caravan, 2013 KIA Reo shopping trolley!!
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I have checked with Repco (Mackay Rubber) no luck and their parts book does not list a part number. I would like to have a closer look at the ones in the photos, they look similar except for the bar around one end, as you say that could be removed if necessary. I think this is going to be difficult, however I am going to try an Isuzu truck outlet and see what they have listed, IS IT POSSBILE GMH STILL HAVE STOCK?? After all I only want 2, I guess more of you out there would some as well????
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crownsixfour
Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:15 am Posts: 46
Car(s): 1968 Isuzu Bellett - SOLD to Kazmaxx, 1965 Isuzu Wasp, 1964 Toyota Crown, 1984 Toyota Sprinter AE86
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i had shagged engine mounts on my bellett and the closest match i could find at u pull it was gemini mounts, from memory they were very similar to the picture of the luv mounts i cut off the tabs and re drilled the holes on the engine and crossmember, i think the bellett mount only had 1 bolt on each side? and the gem has 2 each side but i was relativly easy to do. also another tip is to make up an engine mount cover out of some thin sheet steel to keep oil off the rubbers as they don't last to long when exposed to oil
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| Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:29 am |
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1968GT
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:32 am Posts: 1266 Location: MUDGEE. NSW
Car(s): 1968 PR91 Bellett GT. 2014 ISUZU MU-X, 2016 Jayco 22' Starcraft Caravan, 2013 KIA Reo shopping trolley!!
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Heys Guys, Brett, Ross and JT191, I have seen the Luv mounts, Thank you Ross. Would you have to cut off those extra lugs? (I.E. do they get in the way) Do the bolt and bolt holes line up?
I am far from a mechanic and don't like having to "muckaround" a lot to fix thgis, they would be spares as I don't think I have a problem at the moment, however I want ot be prepared. Last year on my way back to Mudgee from Motofest, my light switch broke and I did not have a spare, result was driving the last 40 klms in Pitch black dark, NOT EVEN A MOON, using my blinkers to see where the road was, VERY INTERESTING!! DM.
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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gday dave. sorry mate, have only just seen your post.
at a guess, i'd say u wouldn't have to cut the loop and tab off, as there's a bit of room there in a Bellett engine bay, but personally, i would remove them. it'd only be a case of a quick hacksaw cut or 2 anyway. my GT is slightly modified here and there, so it wouldn't be a real "originality" concern for me, but on a GT as beautiful as yours, especially being restored as close to original as it is, i think they'd look far better being an "original" looking mount.
as for the holes....?? i honestly don't know, as when i had a look at my Wasp again, the mounts i have used are very similar to those, but not exact. the pic looks like they are very close to a Bellett one (if the loop and tab wasn't there), but having said that, the holes on a Wasp chassis are further apart than on a Bellett crossmember, and as they are listed for a Luv, they might need triming and a new hole drilled as well. the hole that's visible in the pic looks like it would line up, but the Luv mounts i used in my Wasp had one side that was wider than the other when measured from the rubber block, and the hole was out further as a result. of course, this is on the other side of the mount that's in the pic, and while it too is visible, the angle of the pic makes it hard to tell the distance between the rubber and the hole for sure......... again, sorry, without a look at one, it's just difficult to tell.
and i know where you're coming from with the headlight dramas. i had the end fall of a fuse 1 night, and had to do the indicator thing as well. not fun at all, even more so when it's a dark, melbourne winter night!
cheers.
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1968GT
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:32 am Posts: 1266 Location: MUDGEE. NSW
Car(s): 1968 PR91 Bellett GT. 2014 ISUZU MU-X, 2016 Jayco 22' Starcraft Caravan, 2013 KIA Reo shopping trolley!!
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Thank you Brett. they are not expensive, so maybe I purchase 1 and see if it all matches up, and yes you could take off those loops, however heat might be a problem if you use a angle grinder, so yes a hack saw would be the better option. I will let you know when I have time, how I go for everyones benefit. I have acquired however a coupls of old good condition engine mounts which will get me out of trouble if anything happens mean time. After Motofest, driving the GT back to Mudgee today, it is going really well. All the best Dave.
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RobSA
Joined: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:55 am Posts: 580 Location: Adelaide
Car(s): BA Falcon, 68 Bellett
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I know the search function in most forums is dubious at the best, So here is the result of my search for engine mounts ... Many thanx to A.J. for this info, If you want engine mounts contact Tony, he can make the metal part but it is better if you send him the old mounts to refurbish. viewtopic.php?f=36&t=57Cheers Rob
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| Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:00 am |
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bellett65
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:14 am Posts: 157 Location: Cranbourne Victoria
Car(s): Isuzu DMax LSU, Isuzu MUX, 1979 117 Coupe.
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I am about to make you all puke. I have just bought a gearbox mount in NSW $68 including postage. With all the parts I have that was the one I did not have. i had even forgotten what the looked like so I had to email Brett to see if that looked the part. They also have a few other bits. Like some door skins.
Peter
PS: part number is 8942266800.
The centres on studs 75mm holes 130mm
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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I picked up a set of kb20 engine mounts in brisbane today there are gearbox available as well. The engine mount will need to be drilled as 1 hole is spaced further out but there is enough plate to replicate the original bellett. 4 inch angle grinder with a thin cutting disc and a bucket of water should be a buzz 
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1968GT
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:32 am Posts: 1266 Location: MUDGEE. NSW
Car(s): 1968 PR91 Bellett GT. 2014 ISUZU MU-X, 2016 Jayco 22' Starcraft Caravan, 2013 KIA Reo shopping trolley!!
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GT Orphanage, would you like to post a picture or two?? 1968 GT.
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| Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:41 pm |
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PR91
Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:54 am Posts: 2544
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the kb mounts that gtorphanage is describing sound like the ones posted earlier, in the pics, without the 'hook and tab' on the top section. these are the ones i used in my Wasp years ago. pics are a good idea too.
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gt orphanage
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:23 am Posts: 1816
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I will post some before and after mod picks. Brett is correct the same as the photo earlier in this post one hole is out that needed to be drilled the rest was a trim with a cut off wheel in a grinder.The mouts sit 30 mm taller then the old ones however i do not know how tall it would have been new as the one i am using is not healthy. I have internet issues at the moment when it is soughted out i will post a couple of picks.
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JT191
Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:05 am Posts: 543 Location: 12,450 miles away from the Big Warehouse in Melbourne
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I'm waiting on the molds for the suspension bushings and thought I would work on the engine mounts.
I narrowly missed out on a set of new-old-stock Bellett engine mounts to pattern from. I suspect the 40 year old mounts will have flattened some if they did not rot in two or tear in half. I wanted a measurement of thickness and the durometer (hardness) of the rubber.
I obtained an aftermarket Chevy LUV mount to look at. Is the Bellett engine mount the same thickness as the LUV engine mount? Is the rubber hardness between the two the same? Has anyone using the LUV mounts noticed an increase or decrease in vibration versus the Bellett mounts (when they were in good condition if you can remember)?
For lack of anything exact, I would probably do 65 durometer for a street performance mount, and 85 durometer for a race mount.
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puhol
Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 1:37 pm Posts: 7 Location: Russia, Vladivostok
Car(s): Isuzu Bellett 1972 PR50
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Hi all. Please, show me foto of original engine mount and bushes
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Classic_Bellett
Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:58 pm Posts: 4
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New re conditioned engine mounts on ebay: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/172080416674 ... 1555.l2649or: A&A IGLIO ENGINEERING 8 Hill rd, Wingfield. 5013 PH: 08 82432016 They specialise in vulcanising all types of rubber mounts.
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Classic_Bellett
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Stickman
Joined: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:29 pm Posts: 1524 Location: Kallangur, Brisbane QLD
Car(s): 3x1965 PR20(Donkey, Jenny n Bundy) 1 1969 PR20(Percy) 2 1968 PR20(Eugine n GT Donor) 1 1968 PR91 GT, 1 1965 Wasp
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I got a set of these a couple of months ago (were slightly cheaper then I could get a one off set done locally) Price has gone up a little since but that's to be expected as their supply gets lower Get em while ya can I always say 
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